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[Beastly]

i never saw BM

so how did megs go from being tied up on top of maxi ship to being ruler of all cybertron

n have the maxis destroyed and loose the upper hand???


this has been bugging me for awhile now /:

[artemis-lady-warrior]

ummm watch this episode

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsGQ6G0wJDY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-Kqe44DTgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaHkbZUQPS8
it might be this one or the one after it.

[Beastly]

56k
can someone just tell me what happened please

how did megs fall of the ship?
who ran the vehicons before the genrals arrived ie tankor etc
what happened when the mxis arrived at cybertron

[artemis-lady-warrior]

56k
can someone just tell me what happened please

how did megs fall of the ship?
who ran the vehicons before the genrals arrived ie tankor etc
what happened when the mxis arrived at cybertron

Simple. This is the story from the Megatron's story from Wikipedia

In Beast Machines, Megatron's personality underwent a change to become a much darker character. Losing many of his previous personality quirks, he developed a hatred of organics and free will, but oddly saw himself as a savior of Cybertron. His sense of humor vanished, replaced with "Machine Precision" and his plans had evolved to galactic conquest. He even developed some sense of honor, keeping his word to Rattrap in one case where he would have formerly taken advantage of an opponent. However, he still retained his strategic brilliance and manipulative abilities, outwitting the Maximals and other enemies with his plans on numerous occasions.
Megatron as the Vehicon leader in Beast Machines.
Megatron as the Vehicon leader in Beast Machines.

Part-way into the journey back to Cybertron after the end of the Beast Wars, Megatron was able to break free of his bonds and exited the timestream early, returning to Cybertron a considerable time before his Maximal captors. Once there, he adopted a new, zealous philosophy, determining that both Maximal and Predacon alike were threats to the integrity of Cybertron. Megatron came to believe that individuality was the root of all disorder, and envisioned all of Cybertron united as one perfect, technologically precise entity whose destiny was to conquer and consolidate the universe - under his control, of course. Megatron used a virus to hinder transformation and paralyze Transformers and created Vehicon Drones, all under his control. With the population of Cybertron rendered helpless by the virus, the drones slowly captured them and extracted their sparks, their bodies then used as raw material to create more drones. The process went on until nearly all the Transformers had been wiped off the face of Cybertron, leaving only the Vehicons, and Megatron himself, using a control harness to interface with all of Cybertron's systems and his Vehicon Armies, as the singular guiding intelligence at the heart of a single, elegant machine.

In conjunction with his new scheme to erase individuality, Megatron has also developed a fervent hatred of organics, and in his quest to remake Cybertron as the perfect technosphere, dedicated him to the extermination of any and all organic influences on the planet, including his own beast mode. His attempts to purge the organics from his body repeatedly met with failure, and in moments when he would lose control of his emotions, the beast within him would take over, forcing him to detach from his harness and revert into the remnants of his dragon mode. Unable to fully purge the last vestiges of his beast mode from his body, Megatron stubbornly refused to render himself vulnerable even for an instant by simply moving his spark to another body, therefore leaving him trapped in the very thing he hated the most, a partially organic beast form.


When the Maximals emerged from the timestream at their intended point in time, they found the planet under Megatron's control, and were immediately devolved to their original beast modes by the virus. The Vehicons captured Rhinox and Silverbolt, while Optimus Primal, Cheetor, Blackarachnia and Rattrap were able to escape, and were reformatted into technorganic forms by the Oracle shell program of the legendary Vector Sigma computer.

With his technological purity shattered by the arrival of the technorganic Maximals and the revelation that Cybertron had formerly been organic and still possessed an organic core, Megatron bestowed three of his drones with the reprogrammed sparks of Rhinox, Silverbolt and Waspinator, in order to allow them to better combat the Maximals, becoming Tankor, Jetstorm and Thrust respectively. This, however, led to Rhinox's memories and intellect being brought back to the surface by Primal, but, corrupted by Megatron's programming, Rhinox now agreed with Megatron's vision, and set about concocting his own schemes. Duping Megatron and Optimus Primal into using the power of the key to Vector Sigma and the Plasma Energy Chamber, respectively, Rhinox hoped they would destroy each other, leaving him to rule, but when his deception was exposed and the opposing energies released, it only resulted in his destruction. Additionally, when these two energies met in Megatron's citadel, Megatron took a chance and once again attempted to separate his organic and technological sides - only to wind up trapped in the organic half.

Wandering Cybertron in a purely organic body that transformed from humanoid wolf to dragon, Megatron took the name Noble, feigned innocence, and was taken in by the unwitting Maximals, and then exploited them to enable him to return to his citadel, where he transferred his spark into a new, purely technological body, a massive fortress in the shape of his own head, which transformed into a space cruiser. However, his Noble body did not die, remaining purely organic and sparkless, it developed its own primitive intellect.

Floating above the planet's surface, Megatron began anew his scheme for control by acquiring a portion of the Oracle's data from Primal and absorbing the captive sparks into his own, in an attempt to create one, unique intelligence. During this attempt, the Maximals attacked and Megatron killed Noble, resulting in a sonic scream of rage from the Maximal, Nightscream. This scream depolarized Megatron's spark, leaving it wildly flitting around Cybertron, seeking out a new body. Leaping from shell to shell, it found itself unable to remain in a body for long, until Rattrap realized the truth of the matter and repolarized it, trapping it in the frail body of a Diagnostic Drone.

Even as a Diagnostic Drone, Megatron could still access a number of weapon and defensive systems, and he escaped with the help of Strika and Obsidian. Then, his options expended, Megatron submitted to the procedure that would transfer his spark into a new body. His sense of irony intact, the body he chose was based on of Primal's "Optimal" form - minus the beast mode and with a face resembling Megatron's previous incarnations instead of Primal's. With the immense strength and firepower this granted him, he easily managed to fight off Optimus- the only Maximal left standing after the titannic final battle with Megatron's forces-, and, with his long-time enemy unable to do anything but watch, Megatron began the absorption of Cybertron's sparks, growing to a colossal height. Opening a tunnel to the planet's center, Megatron threatened to activate the key to Vector Sigma at its core, transforming the whole world into a perfect technosphere that he would then transfer his consciousness into and then go forth to conquer the universe. Fortunately Megatron could not access the Key while Primal still controlled half of the Oracle, but the massive Megatron simply attempted to separate Primal from the Oracle completely and began to convert Cybertron's organic core. However Primal fought back, overcoming Megatron's power and turning Megatron's throne into organic matter, trapping the Vehicon Leader. Telling Megatron that he needed to find the balance not only between the organic and the technological, but the balance between eternal enemies like him and Megatron, Optimus eventually pushed his foe off-balance, sending the two combatants tumbling down the shaft into Cybertron's organic core. There, together, these two seeds of the future were buried in the past, and, in death, Primal used the Oracle to reformat the entire world into a technorganic paradise.

I hope this helps you.

[Beastly]

very helpful
glomps
thank you

question: where did waspinator come from? he was stuck on earth

if megs went back so far does that mean the beast wars never happened raises lots of questions with the whole time thing

[Jagna]

th BM thing is all a bit iffy when it comes to TF history. you may as well watch it, but if you're a passionate G1 or BW fan, prepare for a few dissappointments. at least, from my perspective. BM is infamous for screwing up the characters personalities into someone they're not. and the whole spark thing, and oracle mumbo jumbo and te techno-organic hooha dint go down too well with everybody. its coz many of the writers were different than BW.BW was wel written. BM, in my opinion, was not

[Beastly]

what they should have done is have a diff character to play megs role
have megs side with the maxis n can play on that relationship with two opposing leaders the snide megs always making comments but following orders coz he wants to keep his spark
and that how he escapes the maxis let him go to help fight of drones

mayb one of the tripidcus council instead? flesh out that whole story line

yea sounds much more better

[VelociBerg]

question: where did waspinator come from? he was stuck on earth

The proto-humans kicked him off planet via a catapult. Its never revealed exactly HOW Waspy got back only that it:

"Took forever, but waaaay worth it!"

if megs went back so far does that mean the beast wars never happened raises lots of questions with the whole time thing

Wellllllll, I would say that they definitely still happened, seeing as Megs taunts Optimus with the whole spiel about how Primal lost the BW, and blablabla. I would guess that Megatron just hid away while his past self made off with the Golden Disk (Disc?) to be followed by the Axalon, and from there unleashed his virus on Cybertron.

have megs side with the maxis n can play on that relationship with two opposing leaders the snide megs always making comments but following orders coz he wants to keep his spark

Eh, I REALLY don't see Megatron taking orders from Optimus, or later Cheetor, depending on which season we're talking about. If anything, assuming that Megs wasn't the big bad villain and teamed up with the Maximals, I'd see him splitting the group up, seeing as how the Maxies in BM were far more divided than they were during the Beast Wars.

Hmmm. Optimus/Cheetor/Rattrap vs Megatron/BA/Nightscream ?

[artemis-lady-warrior]

yeah veloci. Megs would never follow Optimus orders. if anything he'd probably try to take over. but yeah, HIM doing the whole thing seemed out a character. MAJORELY! I remember what I thought the first time I saw him in BM and he was like. 'I have a disgusting organic form" I remember tihnking. "WHAT?! I thought you LIKED your organic form! It never seemed to bother you before."
You know. He coulda just scanned something else to get a different form.

[Beastly]

megs n OP would make an uneasy alliance
have the maxis question their leader n hint they may follow megs (course wouldnt actually happen jus b all talk 2 unsettle op n do another course of action)

megs would want to keep his spark so would fight along side maxis

mayb have one of the tripidicus councils or even cyrotek do it instead

[artemis-lady-warrior]

maybe someone should write a fic of that. some kind of alternate universe deal. that would be cool and I would definately read it.

[The Crab]

I personally think Beast Machines is the best-written Transformers show to date. The story was excellently paced, there was always a sense of urgency and danger, plus it had a number of plot twists. I love plot twists.

The biggest miffs everyone had were the character designs, and how the character's personalities changed up.

[VelociBerg]

While I don't think its the BEST show ever written, I do agree that Beast Machines is pretty good. Granted, I think it would've done better as a standalone, and not as a sequel to Beast Wars, but oh well...

[artemis-lady-warrior]

I still think Beast Wars was the best written series mostly because it had everything in it. humor, dark stuff, romance, sci-fi, alien abductions XD, and FUN!!!!!!!

I know David kaye liked the change (of Megatron in Beast Machines) he said so in his intereview but I don't think the other voice actors did. I didn't, the show confused me when I saw it. I was like. WTW?! To this day the show weirds me out, especially when Megatron was acting like he was God or something. "COME TO ME, MY CHILDREN!" that and the fact that he was acting like he had some kind of uncurable disease and stayed in one place all the time. Okay I admit it. The show freaked me out and reminds me of Resident Evil.

and THERE WAS NO DINOBOT! WAAAAAA! lol

[Beastly]

never saw bm so cant comment

so this linked in with universe?